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(intro)
Andy Richardson
All right. I'm going to throw you a curveball today.

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Madeline Richardson
Okay.

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Andy Richardson
If you had unlimited budget, unlimited, resources, what would you build?

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Madeline Richardson
I would probably just do some sort of art shed where I. Like I said, it's not the most out there wild thing, but just a place where I can go do my art away from the world.

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Madeline Richardson
But it's just like almost glass, like windows on all sides. And I can just. I can do my little drawings and paintings and I know them for a bit.

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Andy Richardson
Yeah, that sounds fun. So for the listener, what would you build if you had unlimited resources? Well, that's what we started out with. Jay in this episode was Jay Fraser, which is the correct way of saying phrase

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Madeline Richardson
like, yes sir.

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Andy Richardson
Yeah, Fraser. Like yes, sir. Not like Fraser, which is also from this area. We learned that or I knew that, smoking Joe Fraser. So he's from the area as well. But this is Jay Fraser, like. Yes, sir. But anyway, so we threw him a curveball as well. In terms of you know, if you had unlimited resources, what would he do?

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Andy Richardson
So we jump in with that. And he I thought he handled it pretty well. So I guess what were your thoughts about the episode, about the curveball or anything else that

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Madeline Richardson
I thought the whole episode was pretty? Well, I thought it was very technical to where I think we're kind of reading each other's minds a little bit.

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Madeline Richardson
You had that same engineer technical mindset, and I thought, I thought it was interesting to that extent. Yes.

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Andy Richardson
Yeah. I think you're right. I mean, you said it, pretty funny. Like when we were going home, because this has been, I guess, a couple of days we haven't been able to make the preview part, but, you were saying, basically, we're the same guy.

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Madeline Richardson
Pretty. Pretty much.

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Andy Richardson
Yeah. So it was a good episode, I thought. And because Jay is very technology oriented, and I wanted to get his mind set on some of that aspect of things like innovation. We did get into AI a little bit, which is a hot topic right now. And we also talked about schedule and how the, you know, currently with all this technology and is scheduling getting better or getting worse.

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Andy Richardson
So we want to, you know, get the listener to dive into that themselves. But we did discuss that. Was there anything else that

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Madeline Richardson
I think that was pretty much it. The when you went over, how projects are getting slower. But we have this more advanced technology. I thought that was pretty, pretty interesting to think about in general, because why would it be getting slower if our technology's getting better?

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Madeline Richardson
What? What's happening there?

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Andy Richardson
Yeah. So that was definitely an interesting aspect. So I guess they won't have to dive into the episode to figure that out, but nonetheless.

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Madeline Richardson
Oh, is that what you.

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Andy Richardson
But that's okay. But that's okay. I'm sure there be plenty about like, why you know, that is true is going to be helpful. And then also what is his why?

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Andy Richardson
Which is one of the big aspects of the show.

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Madeline Richardson
Right.

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Andy Richardson
And just you have to dive in to see that. Yeah. And also, being from the community, Fraser is a big name in this area. So we discussed Sea Pines, Charles Fraser, Joe Fraser and, you know, obviously Fraser Construction and some of the jobs that interestingly, we worked on together.

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Andy Richardson
So those are some of the things we're going to we're going to talk about in this episode. Okay. Anything else you want to say about that?

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Madeline Richardson
No, I don't think so. Okay.

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Andy Richardson
Well, my name is Andy Richardson and I've been a structural engineer for 26 years, and I'm still on a journey to learn more about the AEC industry.

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Andy Richardson
Come on and go along with me on this journey. Let's jump to our introduction.

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(title sequence)
Madeline RIchardson
Welcome to enhance, an AEC podcast, where we learn the why behind AEC professionals so that you can learn your why.

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Andy RIchardson
All right. Hey, Jay.

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Jay Fraser
Andy, how are you?

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Andy RIchardson
Good, good. Well, thanks for coming on the podcast today. So I want to throw you a curveball to start with. All right, so.

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Jay Fraser
Toss it up.

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Andy RIchardson
All right, so you've got an unlimited budget and you can build anywhere you want. What do you build and where do you build?

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Andy RIchardson
I told you I throw a curveball to start out with.

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Jay Fraser
Probably a Caribbean island. The, you know, the cost of construction. Get out and do something on islands is, you know, up there. Just barge stuff over and get it going. That's where the unlimited budget could really help you. But, you know, once you got, a, piece of property out there, you can get a, like, say, like Bahamas or something.

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Jay Fraser
You can get out to, anywhere you want to access and fish and have a nice view of the, of the water and, build something a little, little withstand, the elements. But just be like a really nice getaway.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah. Nice. Nice. So what would it be, though? Like a house, a building or.

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Jay Fraser
I'm thinking, my first thought. What? The residential construction. Okay. It's not normally what I do, but, Yeah. Just something with, Private pool. Three stories. Could have, like, 12 people stay there. So it could be like a vacation getaway room for, like, a nice boat out the front. And, do some serious fishing at a nice.

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Andy RIchardson
So you like to do some fishing?

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Jay Fraser
That's. Don't do that kind of fishing when I should. But, if I get those opportunities, I always take them.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah. What? What do you, Is it the harpooning down there in the Caribbean? You ever done that before?

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Jay Fraser
I've done that in Tampa. I lived, in, Tampa Bay and did spearfishing for hogfish. If you can do that in the Bahamas, I would do that in a heartbeat. Yeah.

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Andy RIchardson
Nice. So those are pretty big. It sounds like. Yeah, yeah. Pretty good eating.

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Jay Fraser
There. They're some of the best. It's okay. They eat crustaceans. So their, their diet is very low on the food chain. So their meat is really tasty.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Well, Yeah, that sounds that sounds like a fun activity to do. And I've never been spearfishing before, so maybe maybe you can take me sometime. Yeah. If we're ever down in Tampa. So, maybe a little more traditional in the question now that we've gone with the curveball, but, thanks for parts of bathing in that and being a good sport.

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Andy RIchardson
But, so I want to just give some background in to you, Jay Frazier. I mean, some people, I mean, the podcast is local, but it's also beyond just Beaver County. So I want to give people a little bit of background into Frazier is a big name in Beaufort County. So, but I also want to talk about you, Jay Frazier.

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Andy RIchardson
So maybe a little bit of background about you. And, you know, I guess growing up Hilton Head, Bluffton area and then I guess going away and then coming back. So maybe talk about that a little bit.

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Jay Fraser
Sure. The the name Frazier is, pretty well known around here because in the 60s, my great grandfather got together with some developers or some timber investors buying up the southern portion of Sea Pines. And then his son Charles, my great uncle, and my dad came up with the concept to develop Sea Pines, which really started the development of, of Hilton Head Island, but also brought a lot of unique, environmental conscious, you know, concepts to it.

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Jay Fraser
So it's not just any developed. It was pretty notable. And it's, some of the new standards that they set and really kind of set the precedent for the way the whole southern Beaufort County continues to be developed today.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's something that a lot of people don't really know. The, you know, what is Sea Pines all about? And I mean, it really puts Hilton Head on the map is what my understanding is, right?

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Jay Fraser
Yeah. I remember being a really little kid in elementary school and here in, developing is bad and developing chopped down trees. And then I knew that I had this granddad and great uncle that were developers. But then I heard, like, they saved trees. So I didn't know what to say to those people that were, you know, trying to teach a kindergarten class that all development was bad and.

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Andy RIchardson
Right. Right.

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Jay Fraser
Doesn't have to be right. There are ways to do it sustainably that, you know, work with growth and work with the environment. Yeah. And so that's that really is one of the things that drives me today is trying to continue that balance. I'm a builder, not a developer, but I still try and, you know, for that same mission, my great uncle and granddad, yeah.

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Andy RIchardson
I mean, people have to have a place to live. Yeah. Place to work. So is development totally a bad thing?

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Jay Fraser
Yeah. I mean, you hear all these workforce housing cries, you know, battle cries. So people need places to live, and you can't just not build it. So if you're going to have to build it, do it well.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah okay. That's awesome. And so a little bit more about Sea Pines, if you don't mind just what. Because it is significant to your, you know, background and also to Beaufort County. But what what is I mean, obviously the I mean, you mentioned it's kind of an environmentally sustainability was a big thing, and that was in the 60s and 70s.

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Andy RIchardson
But what else made it interesting are people flock to Hilton Head Island for Sea Pines. What was it about it that made.

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Jay Fraser
Yeah, I've learned that my great uncle did a lot of research and how he kind of came up with some concepts. He was he was very young developer. He did some things out of the box, came up with his own ideas. Some of them were for.

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Jay Fraser
How to get away from the the way that South Florida's to call it the highway A1 a and in Myrtle Beach the the beachfront roads made it so block one was beach access, then the road, then the other side of the road was lesser than or no waterfront views, and then quickly worked away from the beach. And, it prohibited access for bikers and everybody else for going inside of sea pines today.

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Jay Fraser
And it also it's kind of repeated in, outside the gates. But the, the main Sea Pines Drive in Greenwood Drive, it's like eight houses back from the beach. And then there's these 90 degree, bike paths and tees and cul de sacs and kind of a whole community can access the water. You give everyone access to the water.

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Jay Fraser
Everyone really loves the, you know, loves the environment. And, they wound roads to avoid trees. They wound the Harbor town Marina to avoid the I call, the Liberty Oak. My gran, my dad in high school had paved some of the bike paths, and so they would just kind of form it and get to a tree and go around it and, yeah, work with the asphalt, you know, crews.

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Jay Fraser
And so he did that, like hands on at age 15.

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Andy RIchardson
Oh, wow. Okay. Now that start his construction career or was that just something he did to make a little cash?

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Jay Fraser
Started, one of the bike paths did, but, yeah, it kind of did. He did that. And, coupons, one of the places they didn't develop, they actually decided it was better to, not develop it and give it back up to the state to be preserved as a what's now a national seashore is Cumberland Island, briefly one of the Carnegie's, sold that to the Sea Finance Company.

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Jay Fraser
Charles was trying to figure out how to do the development concept there. My dad and his brother Simon and some high school buddies spent a summer down there building the C camp, which was the. You can now go to stay with the Cumberland Island Reservation. Okay. And, and that was also in those high school formative years.

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Jay Fraser
So that's, that's kind of a good launching point for my own interest in construction, because I too, was doing carpentry and things like that in high school. That got me to where I am. Or you can even go back to like, playing with Legos and building treehouses as a kid.

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Andy RIchardson
Okay. Yeah, let's go into that a bit. So, like, you know, why why talk about your background, you know, in terms of, you know, why you got an instruction and, you know, going away. I think you went away for a while. Right? So maybe talk about that a bit.

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Jay Fraser
I moved away from Hilton Head when I was age two, moved South Florida. That worked for, Trammell Crow Development and out of Boca Raton. Okay. Look down there for middle school and moved back, ten years later and seventh grade. Okay. And he when he came back, he went to work and partnered with and then bought out Joe Hart and builder who had he had previously worked for.

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Jay Fraser
So that's the legacy of what's now Frazier Construction Company started as Joe Harden builder in 76. Okay. Then it was Harden. Frazier. Now it's Frazier Construction Company. Joe Harden built a solid company that was going all up and down the whole Atlantic seaboard from a million island, in the North Carolina, up in Myrtle Beach, doing beach condos and some high rise stuff to a lot of the early condos on Hilton Head. 

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Jay Fraser
And then they started to ease Moore into clubhouses and condos started to get very litigious. So we pivoted and, clubhouses today is one of our biggest industries.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah. Okay. And, you know, we moved away from sea pines, but you know, there's other they call them plantation on Hilton Head. And I think Sea Pines, at least in my view, set the standard for what Hilton Head is and a lot of ways. And then also in some ways, Bluffton, Beaufort County at large. So you could even argue, but, so these plantations all have clubhouses, right?

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Andy RIchardson
Yes. Sorry. What you guys specialize in.

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Jay Fraser
And the amount of holes of golf in this county, is, very popular, very saturated in golf courses in this area. And where there's golf courses, there's naturally a golf course. Clubhouse. Yeah. And we'll do those. We'll do maintenance facilities. Fitness facilities. When we don't do the any single family homes or commercial builder, but clubhouses is clubhouse construction is the intersection of basically doing the equivalent of a high end homes level of millwork and, commercial product.

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Jay Fraser
Yeah. And people expect to see really nice millwork details inside of them. Good trim work and a lot of a lot of carpentry involved in clubhouses.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah. And we've been able to be on the work together on a couple of those. So one is in Vidalia, Georgia. Yeah we work on that one together.

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Jay Fraser
Yeah. So, Andy and I worked on what's called the whoopee Match clubhouse, and that was in the Sandy, you know, basically a a prehistoric sandhill bridge running through Cobb town. And which sunk the basement level down to the windowsill in that soft sand. Call that the burrows. Remember how that was inspired by the gopher tortoises there?

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Jay Fraser
Yeah. Came up with masonry for the first floor, had some steel. You designed to support, all the way up to basically a fourth floor fire watchtower. Right. The owner wanted to be able to go off the, Yeah, off of this upper level apartment and get a sky view of the whole place and and build it like, like a rural county fire tower.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah.

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Jay Fraser
So this just a neat project, and that one will always be. That's building those drives my passion. You know?

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Andy RIchardson
Okay.

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Jay Fraser
It's. You can create and manifest a really cool product. Going to do a construction, clubhouse like that. And, and then when it's done, you know, I built that. And I can't imagine if my life was a different career path, and I was like a a lawyer or something. And that file on that cabinet right there, that's what I did.

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Jay Fraser
Yeah, I like that, you know, building something that that stay sometime, stay on the, the test of time for, you know, centuries.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah. I mean that's, that's really what we want to explore in this show is like what what drives you? What's your passion? I mean, so what what about that? You know, trying to get to the core of that? I mean, what is what is it that obviously you like to you know, I like to think, okay, I drive down the road and I see that building and it's like, hey, we we were involved in that clubhouse or building.

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Andy RIchardson
I mean, it's, you know, our role design, you're all project management construction. But, there's something about that that that's inspiring. You know, it's you're making the world a little bit better place. So what about that particular project was. I mean, you said that, then really get you going. It sounded like. I mean, what you thought it was, was inspiring to you or.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah.

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Jay Fraser
Oh, that's a really good one to to kind of lean into. Got involved early and we learned kind of the owner's program and what, what his passion was, how he, he wanted a really comfortable clubhouse.

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Jay Fraser
He wanted the best damn shower pressure in the land. Yeah. When you got done with the, the round you want to be able to take like a 12 gallon a minute like shower that was just dumping warm water on you. You want to really clean water. He'd done a, a documentary on some of the negative effects of bottled water.

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Andy RIchardson
And he. What do you mean? He did a docu? So, he watched it, or he,

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Jay Fraser
He he he produced it.

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Andy RIchardson
Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. So that obviously we're talking about somebody with. Yeah. Some cash.

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Jay Fraser
Yeah.

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Andy RIchardson
So.

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Jay Fraser
But even still, he, he didn't want to just recklessly spend the, the cash, because he's, he's from Long Island and, you know, the members of his club are into some really nice, opulent clubs up in the Long Island area. Tour some of them going back to, like, the Gilded Age.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah.

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Jay Fraser
And there was no point in coming down the club down of Georgia and trying to outdo those Long Island clubs with a club in Cobb Town, Georgia. But he could make it basically a more comfortable, a more fun club. Okay. And that's what he did.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah. What made it fun? I mean, I know the comfort was there because I've been there. Yeah, it's it's very nice like the, the borough you're talking about, it just feels comfortable is the best work. Like it just feels cool down there like that. It's this is brick tunnel that you go through, and it just feels like I could just go in one of these rooms and just go to sleep for, like, two days.

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Jay Fraser
Yeah. Arcade, texturally, you know, the tunnel and the burrow area kind of felt warm, the brick felt warm, the, lots of comfortable seatings around the bar. He wanted the bar to be a central gathering place, so he didn't put, like, personal TVs in every single bedroom. You're kind of forced to come out of your room and mingle with the other people.

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Jay Fraser
If you're going to be in your room, you're going to be on your phone screen the whole time. Yeah.

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Andy RIchardson
So that.

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Jay Fraser
Bar area, creates a community feel among the golfers that are there. And we also built some lodges and lodges, had a community room as well with the one TV and the the punk rooms didn't have a, a TV in there. He also had a model that's, destination golf for groups. And so when you're down there, you're you're down there with seven buddies.

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Jay Fraser
Usually you're not just going to your one club for your round. So you're you're always bringing friends. It's almost like to me it feels like, if I in my fraternity days could turn that into adulting, because I get, like, an adult fraternity house.

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Andy RIchardson
Yeah. Like go to. Yeah. I mean, that sounds that sounds interesting. Okay. Yeah. I mean, anything else about that one? So I guess you mentioned fun. What about that? Is is fun? I mean, besides just, you know, sit around the ballroom. Is there anything else?

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Jay Fraser
Well, from my role as, like, construction manager on that, I like that it had problem solving.

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Andy RIchardson
Okay.

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Jay Fraser
And, I really like getting involved in projects where you're trying to tackle something, maybe something unique. And it's, it's kind of like I'm up for the challenge. And then when you you solve the problem, the construction or engineering problem, has even more pride to work than just, you know, I did another stamp and repeat retail of it.

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Andy RIchardson
Right? Right. Yeah. Okay. I mean, that's that makes a lot of sense, you know, to be able to have something that you can be proud of. And and that's really what it sounds like. You're a big part of your vision and part of what you want to do, as you know, Jay Frazier. And then Frazier Construction.

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Jay Fraser
So so when I graduated from University of Florida, went to work for Whiting Turner and their big nationwide contractor top the in our list, went to their Tampa office, but they bring all of their new product engineers to their headquarters in Baltimore. And, Willard Hackman was the second president of the company. And he had been there, been in that seat for like 45 years.

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Jay Fraser
He was 80 something years old, but he took us all into his office, kind of like this. Didn't have a computer up there, but he had all these old, you know, magazines going back way back and, mid-century modern furniture, kinetic, cool covered. And he's basically sat us down and said, do you know why we call you project engineers for your your new role?

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Jay Fraser
And we're like, you know what else? Maybe someone guess, but guess wrong because you're called engineers because he's there to solve problems. You're going to engineer, you know, the construction problems on the job. If it were easy, the owners would just hire the subs.

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Andy RIchardson
Right? And that's.

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Jay Fraser
True. Yeah. Yeah, it's that's how I stuck with me. Yeah.

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Andy RIchardson
So you're solving problems. Yeah. So what, what type of I mean, maybe that particular site or other sites are there. What type of problems have you solved that are notable?

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Jay Fraser
To what I can't solve right now is labor labor shortage problems? Yeah. Yeah.

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Andy RIchardson
You know, that's kind of.

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Jay Fraser
Tricky for everybody. Mechanical engineering world Hvac humidity can be really tricky. I worked on a Bluffton Park Apartments project coming in, trying to fix 110 units that had only been done a year but weren't performing well. So we came in and came up with with the, method mechanical engineering to solve some of the, the problem of downsizing units that were oversize, adding outside air, adding standalone dehumidifiers.

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Jay Fraser
It was almost like a shotgun approach. But, I did a lot of extra analysis with, humidity loggers. And then I'd like, secretly like Hornet, all this data. And I was like, you know, report it enough to the owners to to give them what they needed. But then I was digging into it more and making, like pivot tables, looking at when humidity was going up and down and really trying to solve it.

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Jay Fraser
Had, you're in the low country that seems to be continuing to be popping up on a lot of our jobs and trying to take that forward into the, beginning of projects, knowing like, we need to make sure there's a plan for high humidity in these things. Right? And that's that's good knowledge to have in this area going forward.

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Jay Fraser
It's almost like thinking getting new quivers or arrows for the quiver. Yeah. For this area as you as your career grows.

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Andy RIchardson
And I mean, it's is the humidity changed? I mean, I mean, I'm being a little bit facetious because.

00;26;33;28 - 00;27;09;29
Jay Fraser
The buildings are getting tighter. Yeah. What's going on? And, we're doing more spray foam. We're, we're getting away from bat insulation and, we're spray foam in our attics on the pitch instead of blanket on the ceiling. Joist. And it seals the buildings nicely. And the air conditioning units can run really efficiently, but almost too efficiently, like you pick on a mechanical system based on the, you know, the the book that tells you what size to do.

00;27;10;01 - 00;27;45;03
Jay Fraser
But, that might be oversize. The amount of outside air intake, that part is code regulated. And, you know, a 2025 code could come out and say you need even more outside air. And when you take this hot, humid, low country air, you don't have to do this on homes, by the way, thank goodness. But if you have this hot outside air and you say you gotta mix in, 30% of your return area has to come from the outside, because what we breathe carbon dioxide.

00;27;45;05 - 00;28;09;08
Jay Fraser
And if you have three people in a home, that's not that big a deal, but we have a church full of people breathing out carbon dioxide. You know, you're you need to flush it. You need to bring in outside air, which is hot, humid, low country air, which means you need that to be dehumidifier. So think of it like a wet rag you're trying to, wring out to bring in outside air, but dry outside air.

00;28;09;13 - 00;28;33;27
Andy RIchardson
Right. Wow. And we just had a mechanical engineer on. And also, my son's coming in. Well, he would have by the time this is, you know, released or whatever. He would have already been on the show because he's in the Hvac industry, too. So this is the, hasn't been scripted or anything. I mean, but it's just a thing that we're dealing with here with is humidity and, you know, air conditioning.

00;28;33;27 - 00;28;38;20
Andy RIchardson
So, it's it's a real thing that we have to deal with and definitely a challenge. It sounds like you.

00;28;38;20 - 00;28;53;09
Jay Fraser
Don't have to deal as much of that with engineering. For example, the modulus of steel 2996 a code change is not going to change the modulus of steel away from 2096. So it's like an inherent physical. Yeah. Property.

00;28;53;12 - 00;29;05;28
Andy RIchardson
Well yeah I mean our stuff is I mean it's interesting you say that, but our codes change all the time. So yeah, the the mechanics of materials don't change, but we have the codified language changes.

00;29;05;28 - 00;29;25;16
Jay Fraser
And so give me, give me an example. Like what. Because keeping up with codes is, is another one of my big challenges. So yeah, you know, if I could come away here learning you what what to expect or learn from code changes for structural from you that would benefit me in my.

00;29;25;19 - 00;29;45;24
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. So, you know, I've got a whole stack of books over here, and this is just, you know, you can't see it in the screen. But I've got a whole stack of books here. And then a couple over there, IBC, IRC, AC, United States, you know, MSI, but yeah, we have a lot of books that we have to meet.

00;29;45;24 - 00;30;05;04
Andy RIchardson
And what happens is the building code is like the umbrella IBC, you know, and then what? And then it's a referenced standard. So and also you have the Irca. So IBC stands for an International Building Code as you know. But some people may not know that and that are listening. And then IRC is the international residential code.

00;30;05;04 - 00;30;30;29
Andy RIchardson
You guys don't do houses, but that's sometimes we do houses. And so anything on the coast over a certain miles per hour wind speed and also seismic has to have even the houses have to be designed for that. So, but yeah. So the IBC is on a, I think a three year cycle in South Carolina. And most of these states are either on a 3 or 6 year cycle.

00;30;30;29 - 00;30;49;01
Andy RIchardson
So every six years are change in the code, the code writers, the IBC and the IRC, which is the ICC International Code Council. They're changing every three years. So they're on a three year cycle. And then all these referenced standards are changing like every three years as well.

00;30;49;01 - 00;30;53;10
Jay Fraser
So like a, S, C, e American societies building years, right.

00;30;53;10 - 00;31;29;19
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. So ASC is one American society civil engineers. That's the design loads for buildings and other structures. And so a the IBC says the the loads are per ASC for the most part. It's kept it has the right to change those, reference standards. So it might have a modification to AC and then AC. So for the most part you follow AC for all your loadings, live loads, dead loads when loads, earthquake loads, snow loads, all these different loads.

00;31;29;19 - 00;31;57;16
Andy RIchardson
And that's just the loading and that could change. And so like to 2018 RSC May 2021 building code. I believe didn't have a big change, but 2018 I believe had had a pretty substantial change because, I, I can't remember when it was maybe 2015 or 2018, but they changed from what's called v ASD to V ultimate was one big change or two.

00;31;57;16 - 00;31;58;21
Andy RIchardson
Maybe that was it was 2010.

00;31;58;21 - 00;32;09;20
Jay Fraser
That's like V for velocity and of the wind speed. Yeah it's a three second gust. Yeah. Of a boom immediate gust or something.

00;32;09;21 - 00;32;43;23
Andy RIchardson
Yeah I mean so not to get too much on a structural because I want to go back to you, but. Sure. Because we can definitely get back into structural. But, that's an interesting topic because we just had some hurricanes here and, you know, they that had the hurricanes drove that a lot. Not just because, we needed to make sure the codes met the design, but they wanted to make the codes match the the populous, perception of the wind load.

00;32;43;23 - 00;33;04;10
Andy RIchardson
And here's what I mean by that. Back in the 90s, the the wind load was on what's called a fastest mile basis, okay. And so it was like 110 miles an hour here on the coast of South Carolina. Might have got up to 120in Florida, but it was in the hundreds. Then I changed that. What that meant is a particle, a wind.

00;33;04;13 - 00;33;24;12
Andy RIchardson
If you measured it over a mile, it would be the speed. It would be like the average per mile, something like that. I probably didn't get it exactly right, but it has to do with the mile. Okay. A mile of travel for one particle in the three second says, okay, well, it's a three second section of that. So it went.

00;33;24;19 - 00;33;45;02
Andy RIchardson
And if you think about like a a curve, if you were looking at that particle went over a mile over a three second section, it would be higher, but over the whole mile it would still be lower. That makes so it's more of an average. So what happened is it went from 110 on the coast to to like 130, and then they changed it again.

00;33;45;02 - 00;34;11;00
Andy RIchardson
That was on a what they call an ASD, which is like an allowable stress design, which is like service level. And the best way I can explain service level is, you know, let's say you have a 200 pound guy. Well, if you're putting him on that table over there, he's 200 pounds and you say, well, the table's good for 200 pounds, meaning it has a factor safety of like it will feel it.

00;34;11;02 - 00;34;33;24
Andy RIchardson
300 pounds. But not 200 pounds. Yeah. So the factor safety is like 1.5. So you divide that 300 by 1.5 and you say it's good for that's the allowable. So it's good for 200 pounds. And so that's ASD basis. And then you have ultimate basis which is the 300 pounds. And it says well that table is going to fail at 300 pounds.

00;34;33;24 - 00;34;42;08
Andy RIchardson
I want to know what to you know the guy weigh like what that is. Right. So you take the guy and you multiply him by 1.5. And that's the.

00;34;42;08 - 00;34;45;11
Jay Fraser
Ultimate. But engineering always has a safety factor.

00;34;45;11 - 00;34;48;05
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. This is a matter how the factor is applied. And I guess.

00;34;48;07 - 00;34;51;26
Jay Fraser
The change could be how much safety factor to do on all the old numbers.

00;34;51;26 - 00;35;14;13
Andy RIchardson
That's the that's that's what's interesting. Yeah. Because what they did with the, what they did with the code is they really they just changed the definition of it. Because if you look at the actual values in the design, the design actually went down because they went from the 130 for the, a from the ASD and then the 20, I think it was 2015 or 2018.

00;35;14;18 - 00;35;36;23
Andy RIchardson
They went to ASD to ultimate, and it went from like, something like 130 to like 140 or 150. I think it was 140 miles an hour. So it went up a little bit, but the basis went down like that. So anyway, the lows haven't really changed that much, but all these criteria have changed. So that's a little bit of a structural.

00;35;36;26 - 00;35;44;22
Andy RIchardson
But I want to talk more about that. Go ahead about you guys. But I know you had some questions about structural.

00;35;44;24 - 00;35;47;01
Jay Fraser
So maybe I'll work that in. But you ask your question.

00;35;47;03 - 00;36;03;26
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. So I want to talk a little bit about technology innovation. I mean that seems like something that you're, you're really interested in. And, so I guess how is that how is the technology changing, you know, work for you as Frazier Construction?

00;36;04;03 - 00;36;32;19
Jay Fraser
Not as fast as I like. And and manufacturing and other industries are leaps and bounds over the pace of technology adoption of construction, the, construction industry is one of the slowest to get away from manual labor crews, you know, performing the manual task and trying to adopt, you know, technological ways to, to change things. But it's always out there.

00;36;32;19 - 00;37;09;12
Jay Fraser
I love taking it anywhere, garnering all the top 40 articles, stuff, going to the back and look at the new called the whiz bang products in the back. Yeah. My first taste of, you know, leaps and bounds forward technology with construction was in my first year with Whiting, Turner and BIM models. Became a thing. And this was, 2007 or 8 and it was called, Autodesk Navisworks.

00;37;09;12 - 00;37;43;21
Jay Fraser
And I went up to Baltimore and got trained on it and came back all gung ho fired up to use it, and none of the architects were using it. Okay, so I didn't get to do anything with it. And then, came here to Bluffton and none of the architects, everyone was still using regular 2D CAD. I've been, like, waiting to do more stuff with them, because you can build building information modeling because it'll tell you that, a paper, that clashes with the beam just by running a button on it.

00;37;43;23 - 00;38;13;01
Jay Fraser
And that also used to take a long time and now do faster. And I did some of that on that whoopee project. I did some of that on our UCB hospitality building. I would love to do more. And I just, I need, like, it's like pulling a rope, like, I need the mechanical subs that I'm going to use to, you know, be subs that know how to use it and want to use it.

00;38;13;01 - 00;38;23;01
Jay Fraser
And, designers to use Revit, which you, you use. But how often you get paired with architects that still do 2D.

00;38;23;04 - 00;38;36;07
Andy RIchardson
I mean, we we do anything structural. So we're, we're working with architects that say that because, you know, some residential commercial. But, we still have architects that are hand drawing things at times. And like all the way under on and.

00;38;36;07 - 00;38;40;19
Jay Fraser
Here's your model back. You're not going to do anything with it. But yeah we only use Revit. So here you go.

00;38;40;22 - 00;38;59;11
Andy RIchardson
But we also have Revit. And we also have you know we're doing a clubhouse actually. And in Florida right now. And they are using Revit. And they're using you know I guess the OCC Autodesk Construction Cloud. So that's another innovation. Are you up on the SEC.

00;38;59;12 - 00;39;29;18
Jay Fraser
The SEC Autodesk Construction Cloud. Almost pulled the trigger on them this past spring. I'm sticking with a company called Pro Core that's similar. They're both tools for the construction, typically commercial construction contractor to manage the whole and construction process. Yeah, they pretty much have a tool for every tool that we need. Request for information, submittals.

00;39;29;20 - 00;39;50;12
Jay Fraser
Being able to use drawings in the field on an iPad, being able to see, specifications on an iPad in the field, the information is so much more accessible. Now, you can get away from a lot less paper, can move the communication around, which is very important to us, because if I actually don't, my company does self perform a lot.

00;39;50;14 - 00;40;17;04
Jay Fraser
If I don't have the boots on the ground, the pour the concrete, you know, what are we we're really the information managers. What is the owner? What who's going to do it? How do I get, you know, the way the architect wants it done, conveyed to the right person that's doing the boots on the ground and getting this portable information with the, using the Procore cloud and their online tools.

00;40;17;06 - 00;40;18;28
Jay Fraser
I think it's helped us accelerate that. 

00;40;19;04 - 00;40;39;12
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And I, I really had forgotten that that the OCC was about the was basically a competitor. Procore I was thinking more than 360 which is there is more about the the Revit and can connecting the consultants together through Revit.

00;40;39;12 - 00;41;10;15
Jay Fraser
But BIM 360 still actually has some tie ins. And the Pro caulk is are an open API software. Yeah. So our almost like frenemies with Autodesk okay. They sync to them and and how they're competing for the construction platform thing. But yeah, Procore is not going to get in the business of making a design software anytime soon and probably never will.

00;41;10;17 - 00;41;16;04
Jay Fraser
So they're going to talk to Autodesk and talk to Revit and BIM 360.

00;41;16;06 - 00;41;22;09
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. And like Blue Beam is another one to where are you using Blue Beam or.

00;41;22;09 - 00;41;39;24
Jay Fraser
Yes. Some of our from our I use plans with some for take offs. It's a legacy product. You know a lot of software gone, subscription model. So if you got an old one that hasn't gone that that direction yet, hang on to it. Yeah, it's kind of in that boat.

00;41;39;27 - 00;41;45;11
Andy RIchardson
But I mean, that's such a great way to collaborate on. Yeah. The red lining and we do a lot.

00;41;45;15 - 00;41;49;23
Jay Fraser
With Blue Beam. Yeah. It's easy to pass on the, the comments.

00;41;49;23 - 00;41;53;26
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. Or we do a lot of our design and them too.

00;41;53;26 - 00;41;59;10
Jay Fraser
So what. Well the, the AI world that's even more new, right.

00;41;59;11 - 00;42;03;19
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. I mean, what are you are you guys using that at all? Like, I mean, other than just.

00;42;03;23 - 00;42;51;02
Jay Fraser
Are you just like ChatGPT. Yeah, constantly. More for communication. And that's starting to, have some tie ins with, just communication side of, of everyday business. AI is really helping with like, analytics if you have, poll camera like you've always had, they can identify more stuff for you. Taking a picture of this room with certain apps can, can build, you know, a 3D model just from a, a 2D picture or an iPhone with the two cameras?

00;42;51;04 - 00;42;53;13
Jay Fraser
It can do a lot more with the visuals now.

00;42;53;15 - 00;42;57;14
Andy RIchardson
Yeah, we're using AI right now. Yeah.

00;42;57;17 - 00;43;10;26
Jay Fraser
About a month ago, started using zoom transcribe meetings. Yeah. And, we, we always try and type of meeting minutes. Got a lot easier because. Oh, I already done it for you. Yeah.

00;43;11;03 - 00;43;26;25
Andy RIchardson
Now it's what's interesting is like we have if you have a zoom meeting, you get all these transcription people, they have their things that follow them. So I'm not sure how that's going to work exactly. But like right now we're doing this one. We have read AI so we can we can have that transcribed. And you know.

00;43;27;00 - 00;43;31;27
Jay Fraser
You mean like if you say, a gaffe or something, you say something wrong and it's tied to you forever?

00;43;32;02 - 00;43;47;11
Andy RIchardson
No, no, I mean, it's just interesting, like you'll bring. So we'll have a meeting maybe, and you'll bring your AI transcription software. Okay. And then I'll bring mine so we'll have ourselves. But then we have our AI that follow us to. Have you noticed that yet or.

00;43;47;14 - 00;43;51;13
Jay Fraser
Two different people heard the same meeting and I wrote it down differently or not.

00;43;51;14 - 00;44;05;19
Andy RIchardson
Just just that we brought in AI software with us to the meeting. So it's just interesting to me that, you know, that's even a thing, you know, and, and I just accelerate is so quick. It's so quickly.

00;44;05;21 - 00;44;12;06
Jay Fraser
If you haven't started using ChatGPT, you're you're getting behind fast. Yes. It is accelerating.

00;44;12;13 - 00;44;16;11
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. You're still using ChatGPT.

00;44;16;13 - 00;44;17;03
Andy RIchardson
I'm just kidding.

00;44;17;03 - 00;44;23;05
Jay Fraser
But, I use copilot, so, Okay, but, yeah, it's gone up in several levels.

00;44;23;07 - 00;44;41;05
Andy RIchardson
Yeah, I say that because I was joking with somebody the other day about that. I was like, yeah. You know, because I like perplexity. Yeah, actually. So, it's, for a little bit for, like, research and things like that if you're researching something. Whereas like ChatGPT, I actually used to make some notes for this meeting today.

00;44;41;06 - 00;45;01;28
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. It's helpful. Get some ideas, stimulate it, and it can help write things out quickly. So anything else as far as, like construction technology that you see, trends or things that we should be watching out for or, you know, maybe you don't want to share too many your inside secrets, but.

00;45;02;00 - 00;45;42;27
Jay Fraser
You know, it's a great place to live. Love, love country. Tons of people are still moving here, so I'm not going anywhere. It's more, just a broader construction trend, not a technology trend. Post Covid, I did an analysis on job schedules. It felt like jobs were taking longer, and I found some jobs that were basically the exact same scope, like we did the almost the same blueprint with almost the same subs, pretty much the same team takes a lot of the correlation out and had done that several times.

00;45;42;29 - 00;45;57;00
Jay Fraser
And in fact, jobs are taking longer now. And, you know, in in the manufacturing industry, things are always trying to get faster and faster and faster. And here we are in industry that.

00;45;57;03 - 00;46;02;21
Jay Fraser
On top of the time when there's all this new technology and AI and everything else, we're getting slower.

00;46;02;23 - 00;46;03;29
Andy RIchardson
Yeah, yeah.

00;46;04;02 - 00;46;27;16
Jay Fraser
I dug into some of the the reasons, some of it's the, materials. It's almost like whac-a-mole like, find out that, spray foam has is not available, and you do everything you can to try and procure spray from. But then you find electric gear is not available and you hear like it's it's tied to the war in Ukraine.

00;46;27;16 - 00;47;02;15
Jay Fraser
And so you try and procure gear earlier and whac-a-mole and at some other commodity or something is is taking a long time. So turtles have had unusual items be long lead items. And then crew rates. I did an analysis and they are taking longer. I don't think you're getting as big a crew. I'm trying to just find the new normal so I can take kind of the durations they've been recently and project them forward and not use durations from last decade.

00;47;02;18 - 00;47;31;20
Jay Fraser
And then I did an analysis on the building departments. And the building departments have gotten smarter. And there's now like these self citizen portals for higher Beaufort and Bluffton and Beaufort County. And you can see all of your, all of your inspections. But I was analyzing like, how long are they taking the turnaround inspections and you can actually pull data from two decades ago and you can see date scheduled, date closed.

00;47;31;22 - 00;48;03;11
Jay Fraser
Doesn't matter. The inspector doesn't matter the type of job. I did some sample theory, and they're taking longer to do inspections. Turn it around now. And a lot of the different jurisdictions right there used to partial pass more stuff. And they for whatever reason, you know, our not just Fraiser construction, you look at the whole population, they are, like failing more inspections and partial failing stuff.

00;48;03;11 - 00;48;24;01
Jay Fraser
They'll say, well, that was good. You can keep drawing it, but I'm going to mark it down as a partial fail. I go, okay, and I can't really explain why, but I think that's the new normal. I've done the analysis trying to take that and go forward the normal schedule. You know, it's not like prep the concrete and the next day inspect the concrete.

00;48;24;01 - 00;48;31;03
Jay Fraser
It's prep the concrete and put a three day activity in for the inspection.

00;48;31;06 - 00;48;43;24
Andy RIchardson
Do you think that's you know this increase in inspections is making the product better anyway or is helping

00;48;43;27 - 00;49;03;26
Jay Fraser
I think that they are grading it harder. It's probably born from just more, more oversight in the building departments. Yeah. Internally. You know, give everyone a bit of a doubt. You know, they're they're trying to get better, too. And sure, it's just taking more time to, to do that.

00;49;03;29 - 00;49;32;19
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. And, they're probably dealing with challenges internally just like you are over labor, etc.. I mean there. Yeah. So yeah, we don't we don't know much about that reasoning. Well, and just for time's sake, maybe we should start looking at, you know, moving on here a little bit, but, a few more questions.

00;49;32;22 - 00;49;51;16
Andy RIchardson
We talked a little bit about, technology and I guess Frazier Construction. We started with that. I mean, anything else about Frazier as far as maybe use is your opportunity to say, you know what? What is your vision for Frazier? And I'm probably saying it wrong. I think it's Frazier, right? Is that the better?

00;49;51;18 - 00;49;53;17
Jay Fraser
Yes. Like. Yes, sir, SER.

00;49;53;17 - 00;50;00;15
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. Frazier. Yeah. And I know that that's just habit, but, more Frazier then Frazier.

00;50;00;15 - 00;50;09;15
Jay Fraser
But it's, it doesn't really bother me either way. You know, I, don't get me too hung up.

00;50;09;18 - 00;50;10;06
Andy RIchardson
But but. Yeah.

00;50;10;06 - 00;50;20;05
Jay Fraser
What what is on Frazier? Little side note. Yeah. Smoking Joe Frazier, the boxer. Yeah. Like boxer was born in Beaufort County.

00;50;20;05 - 00;50;20;22
Andy RIchardson
Okay.

00;50;20;25 - 00;50;41;09
Jay Fraser
And, it's got a lot of relatives still in this area. There's, I think a Bluffton councilman that might be related to him right now. And, so for a Z era, Zaire Frazier's and Frank sr. Frazier's are both pretty prominent names in Beaufort County, right?

00;50;41;09 - 00;50;55;08
Andy RIchardson
Right. That is true. Yeah. So you have the Frazier and then the Frazer. So but but yeah. What is the vision for for you guys moving forward? Is there a, you're you're the president now. Sure. Right. And how long's that been?

00;50;55;11 - 00;50;59;22
Jay Fraser
I turned 40 this past January. Okay. Okay. President, on my birthday.

00;50;59;25 - 00;51;01;08
Andy RIchardson
Oh, wow. Congratulate.

00;51;01;11 - 00;51;29;15
Jay Fraser
Yeah. So I'm a family, partners with my dad, and, he's trying to work his way toward retirement, so. Yeah, I'm starting to even step up. Father. He'll still be around, but I got a good team, around me right now, and we are continuing to try and build the low country. Some construction companies are focused on, a niche and do that niche.

00;51;29;15 - 00;51;48;12
Jay Fraser
Well, and then they travel to go do it. We're trying to be really focus on building in this area, trying to learn, you know, how you build a 140 mile per hour winds with a high seismic zone and an architectural review board that won't allow a flat roof and has to be pitched with nice gutters. Yeah, put all that together.

00;51;48;12 - 00;52;17;05
Jay Fraser
And that's a lot of barriers to, you know, the entry to just anyone to come through construction project around here. This, this area really requires getting to know it intimately. So we pivot to a lot of different industries and continue to want to really stay focused in this area. Yeah, continue that vision. If we can grow into some more industries, spread a little bit farther, we will do that kind of strategically.

00;52;17;07 - 00;52;36;13
Jay Fraser
Well, we got a we got a really long legacy of building clubhouses, multifamily, institutional fire stations, which got another one that we're doing, and want to continue those legacies because if you do, you know how to do something and do it well and then keep doing that excess good business. 

00;52;36;13 - 00;52;41;24
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. And you guys just had a, I guess a 50 year birthday, is that right?

00;52;41;26 - 00;52;54;11
Jay Fraser
We will that'll be coming up and thinking about what we're doing. So 76 founding means that in 2026 okay. We need to be planning something.

00;52;54;13 - 00;52;55;22
Andy RIchardson
So you got a big party coming up?

00;52;55;23 - 00;52;58;13
Jay Fraser
Yeah, well, so are we. You're invited.

00;52;58;13 - 00;53;25;22
Andy RIchardson
Okay. All right, document that. No kidding. Okay, so, let's let's talk about. I mean, we've tried to talk about it already, but, as far as, like, what drives you, this is really what's the key to the show is. And you know, what is your why? I mean, you heard the intro. So, so I mean, have we already hit on that or is there anything else that really drives you to continue on, to, to, to bring it to 100 years, perhaps one day.

00;53;25;25 - 00;53;27;22
Andy RIchardson
But what drives you?

00;53;27;24 - 00;54;02;25
Jay Fraser
Yeah, I like. On particular construction projects, taking on challenges, helping owners solve their problems to get them what they want, in a high quality and, and then their schedule expectations. I also really like working with my team and training them and and educating them. And, and then the greater things are outside of work.

00;54;02;27 - 00;54;27;06
Jay Fraser
I really like working with, kids. I'm involved in, like, my Sunday school with elementary school kids, which is the age of my own kids right now, and sports teams

00;54;27;09 - 00;55;06;28
Jay Fraser
but my time, talent and treasure is is working with kids, training them, had a really nice, men's retreat, actually, with a lot of older gentleman in my church. But we work with salvation Army taking down limbs after Hurricane Helene, and, I did a lot of the organization for that with a couple other key men, Allen Ward and, Thornton and and, got a lot of fulfillment out of organizing that and moving that forward.

00;55;07;00 - 00;55;09;04
Jay Fraser
Kind of I was like, command and control.

00;55;09;06 - 00;55;16;00
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. And you were able to use your project management skills. I mean, to help with these hurricane.

00;55;16;03 - 00;55;31;04
Jay Fraser
I don't want to be an event planner every day, but, if you have project management skills, you can just condense that in the work that you're probably well-suited to do. Event planning? Yeah. And you said the schedule is compressed, but it's very similar thought process.

00;55;31;06 - 00;55;36;26
Andy RIchardson
Now, Tom. Talent, treasure. I mean, I'm a man of faith as well. So I mean, I'm familiar with what that means.

00;55;36;26 - 00;55;41;16
Jay Fraser
Are you getting your letters from your church for renewals for next year? It's like, yes.

00;55;41;19 - 00;55;48;08
Andy RIchardson
But yeah, maybe you could explain to some people that have never heard that before what what that means. Like, yeah.

00;55;48;10 - 00;56;21;12
Jay Fraser
So I'm involved in, church of the cross, and they call it their time, talent and treasures, you know, for their congregants to think about and reflect in the year and for the upcoming year, you know, going beyond just coming to Sunday sermons and hearing this message. You know what can you do to, give back to your to your church and you can give your time, you can volunteer, you can give your talent.

00;56;21;12 - 00;56;45;17
Jay Fraser
That's like doing Sunday school. My, my wife was in the, played violin for a decade with, I would call that more on the talent side. Yeah. And then your treasurer is, is tithing. And, you know, the goals from some passages in the scriptures is to try and do 10% of your, of your earnings, back to charity.

00;56;45;19 - 00;56;55;01
Jay Fraser
And, that's a, that's a tough goal for. Well, I've been on the hit. Yeah. But you know, it's, it's more than just dropping in some pennies in the, in the plate.

00;56;55;04 - 00;57;20;27
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. I guess, it's always 10% though, right? If it's a dollar or if it's $100, it's still 10%. But, Okay. Well, that's that's awesome that you're you're really giving those things back to the community and, helping out in those ways. Glad to see that. And, it sounds like you really have a passion for for your work and, I appreciate you being on today.

00;57;20;27 - 00;57;44;10
Andy RIchardson
Was there anything else you wanted to share about, you know, yourself or Fraser Construction or any questions? I mean, I think we had the technical stuff. Yeah. See what how we're looking on time, but, we can maybe hit a couple of those. I was going to do that as, like, a technical bonus, which I've never done a technical bonus, but just so that people, you know, this is more for kind of edutainment, but,

00;57;44;13 - 00;57;48;10
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. So we could do those. But is there anything else you want to say about.

00;57;48;13 - 00;57;49;02
Jay Fraser
Yeah.

00;57;49;05 - 00;57;51;06
Andy RIchardson
You or,

00;57;51;09 - 00;58;16;15
Jay Fraser
Him have. Kind of want to stay on the humble side of just making this all all pitch for Fraser Construction. Sure, sure. Every president of a company does need to fulfill a sales role. I would, let's say I would take on as much as possible with Fraser Construction. But I do kind of approach sales typically more from a from a technical side.

00;58;16;17 - 00;58;26;05
Jay Fraser
Yeah. And, and, you know, I'm not the, the smoothest, like a sales guy out there with, with an elevator pitch. Yeah.

00;58;26;12 - 00;58;40;10
Andy RIchardson
Sure, sure. Yeah. So I kind of, I didn't want necessarily trying to set you up for a softball for sales, either. I mean, I just wanted to give you an opportunity to share anything out that might be on your mind or things that this year, I mean, but obviously I wanted to.

00;58;40;14 - 00;59;11;06
Jay Fraser
Well, yeah. One thing on my mind is we've been a rep for Butler pre engineered metal buildings for some time. I finally released this new design software called Omni for excited about using it. But when I, start setting up new metal buildings and we got some projects coming up, this indoor basketball gym and, golf maintenance facility, I got to get really involved in the, the codes and loads and really trying to understand it and research it as well.

00;59;11;06 - 00;59;34;16
Jay Fraser
I was kind of wondering, you know, if I can pick your brain for why some of those things already are, are the way they are around here. Sure. You, kind of answer the wind load questions for wind speeds. Yeah. How do I pick the, wind enclosure?

00;59;34;18 - 00;59;46;16
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. Okay, I'll tell you what. Why don't we jump over to the technical side. So I'm going to close this out, and then we'll sort of like, give us a, an interlude and we can jump over to, I guess what the technical. But,

00;59;46;19 - 01;00;04;03
Jay Fraser
On the conclusion of that, I want to say thank you for for having me. Yeah, sure. It's gone over my background. I really love the Sierra. I love the low country. It's just a wonderful place to live. Great natural beauty here. And and I want to continue to build here, but the in a way that it continues to sustain the.

01;00;04;06 - 01;00;05;07
Jay Fraser
What I love about Bluffton.

01;00;05;11 - 01;00;28;12
Andy RIchardson
Yeah. And I appreciate you coming on. I mean, it was interesting to hear about, you know, the history of Sea Pines and Hilton Head and Fraser, the correct, correct pronunciation of it. And and also just, you know, your history and, hoping they get some hogfish. What is it called, a hogfish. Hogfish? Sometime maybe. And, just really intriguing and interesting to hear about what you guys specialize in.

01;00;28;12 - 01;00;56;10
Andy RIchardson
So, it was really cool having you on today. So thank you for for. All right. Well, that's it for our episode today. Thanks, everybody. If you want to jump over to the technical bonus, this is our first technical bonus. So, should be fun, but we're going to just jump into that next, and I'm not sure where we're even going to put it, but go, go, go look on our website or, maybe we'll just tag it on to the end.

01;00;56;12 - 01;01;02;11
Andy RIchardson
So we'll just take a moment of silence and then go to the technical bonus.

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